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Heavier Freeman Named Starter

Rookie quarterback Josh Freeman was named the starter for the Bucs Nov. 8 game against the Packers (Cliff Welch)

Rookie quarterback Josh Freeman was named the starter for the Bucs Nov. 8 game against the Packers (Cliff Welch)

Bucs head coach Raheem Morris announced that rookie QB Josh Freeman is the starting quarterback. Freeman commented on making the first start of his career against the Packers on Nov. 8. QB Josh Johnson will be the backup. Offensive coordinator Greg Olson also discussed Freeman's weight gain since being drafted.



 
Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Raheem Morris made the move that was inevitable when he announced that Josh Freeman would be taking over as the Bucs starting quarterback. The 21-year old rookie will make his first professional start against the Green Bay Packers on Nov. 8.

"Josh Freeman will take over as the starting quarterback for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers," Morris said. "That's no discredit for what Josh Johnson has done for this football team. He's given his best efforts, but due to the preparation and the timing, we want to implement a young man into our system, our town and our community. We think it's the best coming off the bye. It's the most time to prepare. It's the most time for him up until this point, and it's time to see a little Josh Freeman."

The 21-year old rookie Freeman said being named the starter does not change his approach to preparing for the next game, and being the Bucs signal caller.

"No not at all," said Freeman. "All that matters is the Green Bay Packers right now. We have a bye week. I have a little bit more opportunity to prepare for what the Packers are going to bring. It is one week at a time. My mind set right now is to prepare as best as I can and go out and do what I do, which is play football. And try and find a way to get a win."

While Freeman said his preparation is staying the same, as the starter he is trying to take on a different attitude and presence for his teammates.

"Obviously it is something that is very exciting for me," said Freeman. "It is something I've been working towards my entire career. It is something that I'm not taking lightly. I come out with a different swagger I guess, because I'm the guy taking the majority of the snaps and I got to, I guess, radiate that type of swagger so my teammates can catch on to it."

Freeman was selected with the Bucs first-round pick in the 2009 NFL Draft. Tampa Bay traded up from the 19th overall pick to the 17th pick held by the Cleveland Browns. Morris and Freeman worked together at Kansas State in 2006, Freeman's freshman year. Freeman said watching the first seven games of the season have given him an opportunity to learn a lot.

"I've learned a lot. I've had the opportunity to watch it from a different point of view, and see things unfold," said Freeman. "I feel like I've really grown as a passer and leader on this team."

Fellow first-round picks Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez started for their teams in Week 1. Freeman was asked how hard it was to be on the bench while other players in his status were starters from day one.

"It was definitely one of those things where I don't feel comfortable sitting on the sideline," said Freeman. "I'm in my element when I'm out on the field, but also I had to look at it as an opportunity to sit back and learn a lot of things. Working with coach Olson, I definitely feel I've learned a lot. I feel a lot more comfortable in this offense."

PewterReport.com has reported that Freeman was overweight earlier this year, and he has some documented conditioning issues dating back to his Kansas State days. On Wednesday, offensive coordinator Greg Olson revealed that Freeman weighed 270 pounds, but later clarified that comment when PewterReport.com asked if he misspoke. Freeman is listed at 6-foot-6, 248 pounds on the team roster. The Pewter Report staff has noticed that Freeman has gotten bulkier since May when he debuted at the team's rookie mini-camp.

"He's probably 265 pounds," Olson said. "He's right in there. He's big. He's more than [the 248 listed on the roster]. He's probably 260. He's at least 260."

When asked if Freeman is currently overweight, Olson said, "No."

Freeman made his professional debut against the New England Patriots in London. With the Bucs down 35-7 in the fourth quarter, Morris inserted Freeman into the game. He was 2-of-4 passing for 16 yards. He was sacked twice. On one of those sacks Freeman fumbled the ball and it was recovered by left tackle Donald Penn. Freeman was also called for a delay of game penalty.

"It was one of those things there were four attempts," Freeman said. "One was a throw away. There were a couple things obviously I felt like I could have done a lot better, but it was one of those things where I got a pass out to [Kellen Winslow]. I completed my first pass to Brian Clark, but I was also high to Sammie Stroughter. It is going to be a matter of just settling down and letting the game come to me, and making the throws I know I can make."

After the game, starting center Jeff Faine teased that the big difference with Freeman in the game was that he could hear Freeman clearly compared to how the soft-spoken rookie speaks in practice. Freeman laughed about that, and explained the difference on game day.

"He was joking about it because in practice I went in there and said it like I'm talking now," Freeman said. "In the game I was making sure there were no questions after we broke the huddle. I enunciated it, said it loud, and let's rock-and-roll."

In part-time action in four preseason games with one start, Freeman completed 44.9 percent of his passes for 238 yards with one touchdown and three interceptions. He ran the ball eight times for 75 yards and one touchdown. His quarterback rating was 41.0. Since the preseason Freeman said he has put in a lot of work to get better.

"It is one of those things coming in as a rookie you are behind," Freeman said. "You haven't had a season under your belt of playing against NFL defenses, and with me I've never really been in an offense with this type of terminology and volume. It is one of those things where I felt like if I was going to be able to play and be successful on the field I was going to have to come in and put in a lot of time to get ready."

Moving to the backup quarterback spot is Josh Johnson, who started the last four games. He completed 50.4 percent of his passes for 685 yards with four touchdowns and eight interceptions. Johnson was sacked 11 times, and ran the ball 22 times for 148 yards (6.7 average). His quarterback rating was 50.9.

"For sure, just his demeanor," Freeman said of learning from Johnson. "The way he steps up and converted a number of third-and-longs, and just how he played tough. Watching the film, and watching him run the offense, he has a good grasp of the offense. I was watching the things he did well, and learn from some of the mistakes he made."

Veteran free agent addition Byron Leftwich started the Buccaneers first three games of the season. He completed 54.2 percent of his passes for 594 yards with four touchdowns and three interceptions. His quarterback rating was 71.2. As a team the Bucs have completed only 51.9 percent of their passes with eight touchdowns and 11 interceptions. The inaccuracy of the passing offense is something that Freeman and the wide receivers are working on improving.

"It is just a matter of getting on the same page. Today we had a lot of seven-on-seven reps with different concepts down the field," said Freeman. "We're trying to time things up with [Antonio Bryant], and time things up with Sammie Stroughter, a number of guys. Trying to get in work and a feel without a live rush, and just dropping back and letting the ball go on time."

Freeman will have to adjust to the speed of the game, but does not see that as being a big issue.

"It is definitely something that you have to adjust. That'll be something that happens fairly quickly," Freeman said. "I think that it is really going to be reading coverages, and getting us in the right protections with Jeff Faine. I feel really good about that. I have a little bit of a cushion to fall back on with Faine. He does a great job of making the calls."
 

Comments

ancil

Mercy, it's only going to get worse.

Prediction time:

After 4 games as starter, Freeman's QB rating will not only be lower than Leftwich's, it will even be lower than JJ's.

1:36pm, October 28, 2009

pinkstob

After it's all said and done I'm just sick of seeing this team shuffle QB's in and out. Here's to hoping this is the beginning of an era where we have a QB, how should I put this, that is the main reason the offense is productive and helping us win games. He doesn't have to be P. Manning (although that would be nice), just a Roethlisberger (sp?). A guy that is good enough to win games way more often than not.

Go Freeman and go Bucs!!

1:40pm, October 28, 2009

Jermo727

Josh..... i will pray for u bud, this will make u, or break u,. i think We will beat the fudge packers and get Josh and the Bucs their first win. BUCS 4 LIFE



1:43pm, October 28, 2009

sunrisejeff

I don't know if Freeman will make it or not in this league but as a buc fan I will be cheering for him to be a success. Like the pick or not this is our QB for the near future. Any fan that is hoping this kid fails just to say they were right about him being a bust isn't a real fan imo. Go get em Josh!

1:44pm, October 28, 2009

jongruden

This is the beginning of the end for Freeman and Morris, ship both of these guys out of town next year, lets draft a real qb next year. Mr. deer in the headlights is about to get lit up, somebody tell the NFL Bloopers show to be ready it will funnier than that reel where they have the Bucs kicker trying to kick the ball and missing and then falling down.
Packers 41, Bucs 6

1:49pm, October 28, 2009

bucs&bolts

Comes out as a sophomore, had mediocre stats at best at an average college program. How does the translate into being a good NFL qb? I'm sick of hearing how guys have all the tools: big arm, mobile, 6'5"- 250. The only thing that matters is can recognize defenses and throw to the right place. Making a play with your feet occasionally is nice but not make or break. I hope he works out for our sake, but either way this season is going to have a big goose egg in the win column.

1:59pm, October 28, 2009

pinkstob

jongruden when in the history of the nfl has a team spent a 1st rounder on a QB and used another 1st or 2nd rounder on another QB the next year? Even if Morris is fired next year which I'd say is only 50/50, no head coach would do what you're suggesting. I guess that's what makes you so special though.

Like it or not if you're rooting for the Bucs Freeman is your QB through at least the 2010 season, barring injury. Nothing will change that.

2:06pm, October 28, 2009

Buc4life33

I was excited about the Green Bay gme until reading this! I guess this is our way to ensure that we get the first pick on draft day by starting Freeman. I don't want to be negative but there is no way we will win that game and to think I spent the money for a ticket to that game. The game we bring back our throwbacks, we will definitely be playing like the throwback era. 0-16 go Buccaneers!!!

2:14pm, October 28, 2009

1bucfanjeff

I'm convinced jongruden is mad at the world.

pinkstop and sunrisejeff are correct.

Love him or hate him, Freeman is going to get his shot to learn the pro game more and get a leg up on the 2010 season.

NONE of us, even the official guru's in the NFL, no whether or not he'll make it. It's all educated guess work, and that holds true for ANY position. QB being the hardest to gauge.

Freeman, I'm pulling for you, good luck - may the force be with you.

2:19pm, October 28, 2009

1bucfanjeff

I meant "know whether.."

2:20pm, October 28, 2009

tyork

Well, there goes the element of surprise. I realize that JJ and Freeman are similar atheletes, but isn't the smart move to say nothing until game day. Didn't Rah learn from the Lefty to JJ deal when he made the announcement on Monday instead of Wed - giving the opponent time to game plan? Is this announcement just to please the media, or does he just enjoy giving away info to the Packers? Is it because there's no film on Freeman?

2:22pm, October 28, 2009

tyork

Oh - and good luck Freeman! I hope this is the beginning of something special. Ugly for a while but improvement over anything we've had in recent years - or ever.

2:24pm, October 28, 2009

cremdonado

bucs&bolts- So is what you are saying is that we now have a big tool as QB !? LOL

Anyone who thinks the creamsicle Bucs are going to beat a Packers team that A) has beaten Brett Favre and is pumped
or B) a Packers team that is pissed from losing 2 games to Brett Favre and is pumped,is dumber than Raheem Morris...

Ready or not ,Freeman gets the call-this proves that Heem had no other plan for this season than watching his boy toy hit the field..

After next week start by Josh,people will be beggin for Leftwich(Anyone who would like to see the Bucs have a chance to win at least one game that is).The kid is a mess-he now has two weeks of starter reps,and thats going to turn it all around ?! Give me a break,I'll believe it when I see it..

2 of 4 for 16 yards,sacked twice and fumbled and a penalty-
future is looking bright my friends....

I can't wait to watch this car wreck...Even if Josh is ready,he will suffer from lack of coaching..

Here is a prediction for you- I predict Freeman stinks it up sooooo bad that the following week he suffers a "mysterious" injury or ailment ,and is replaced by Leftwich or Johnson as starter the following week..This will be Morris and the Gayzers saving face for yet another bad decision made by this organization...

Heem- I though you loved your lil man,but it was all a lie..You are pushing the kid into a game who is not ready..He has physical tools to deal-but what about the mental skills? I'm not saying Josh is dumb,just a bit naive about where he is right now..
This team is coming apart at the seams,the coaching is horrible,and the team has given up on the chance for a win(starting a rook with 9 mins exp. over a seasoned vet-AND you are doing it to win ?!?!-yeah right !!),he is being set up to fail..This will not be a pretty introduction to the NFL by no means,does he have the mental toughness to weather this storm os early in his career ?Heem thinks so,and heem has pushed for this since draft day...I just hope he is right,because a young man and his career are at risk..Heem and his decision making is as suspect as can be,thats why I see a grim outcome for Freeman..I hope I'm wrong...

I believe Freeman is just not ready....


He could add to the creamsicle curse or break it,its worth watching just for that reason...


2:34pm, October 28, 2009

cremdonado

sorry for the long post-didnt seem that way....Oh well,im a douche..

2:35pm, October 28, 2009

eric2706

You guys know what I find really funny. Most of you were killing Gruden for the “ Quarterback carrousel” While in Tampa. Yet Morris has changed QB’s 4 times ( if you include Luke who he said was his starter in the first place) and none of you are up in outrage about that. None of you bashed Morris for not starting Luke and then jus trading him to J-ville. But you all know if it were Gruden you would’ve killed him on this site for lying to Luke then sending him out of town. You people are really Funny. Can someone please explain why Morris gets the pass?

2:36pm, October 28, 2009

1bucfanjeff

Courtesy of a Rick Stroud article:
"Morris said that the plan is for Freeman to start the rest of the season -- and beyond -- regardless of the won/loss record."

2:37pm, October 28, 2009

tjones

Ive been pissed since all the changes started and new this was going to be bad. Im tired of pointing out the obvious negative problems of this F O & coaching decisions.
So good luck josh hope your our franchise QB and can make a difference .
This will probably be my last post unless something good comes out of the rest of the season, ill continue to read everyone elses though.

2:37pm, October 28, 2009

bucswillwin

At least he's on to something regarding the swagger:

""Obviously it is something that is very exciting for me," said Freeman. "It is something I've been working towards my entire career. It is something that I'm not taking lightly. I come out with a different swagger I guess, because I'm the guy taking the majority of the snaps and I got to, I guess, radiate that type of swagger so my teammates can catch on to it."

Fake it until you make it baby !

Pretend you are a great quaterback and who knows... you might start acting out your imagination. It may take you a bit but at least you'll have a vision to aim for rather than running around in circles trying to please a bunch of coaches who are as green as you.

Someone needs to start demanding success around here. That person and the person who follows them will not be fired.

2:46pm, October 28, 2009

lprock22

Well here goes nothin! Let's see what you are all about Free. I wasn't behind the pick and I'm still not very optomistic that you're going to overcome your mediocre college performance (average at best accuracy {56% or so I believe}, sub 3,000 yd. seasons, questionable decision making...etc etc) to suddenly become a franchise QB for my beloved Bucs....HOWEVER....I DO realize that we are stuck with you, for better or worse, for at least a few years so I WILL root for you and HOPE that I and all the other doubters (of which there are plenty) are wrong about you and you can be the guy we need you to be. So prepare your ass off, play balls to the wall and make something happen, your time is now, this is your chance run (and preferably more often THROW) with it. You are a starting QB in the NFL, only 32 of you in the world, realize how blessed and lucky you are to be in your position, appreciate it and own the responsibility that comes with it, an entire suffering fanbase is watching you. Feel that? That's PRESSURE Josh, better learn to love it and eat it for breakfast cause it won't get any easier from here.

2:57pm, October 28, 2009

Deez Nuts

If Freeman doesn't make it as a QB. He is certainly FAT enough to play on the O- line or D- line.

3:12pm, October 28, 2009

davdar

Hey Morris you dumb a$$. GB is going to BLITZ. And so will every other team .By the way, you don't have a line that can STOP IT. Johnson stay ready. This line will probably get him hurt real fast after he gets hit 100 times.

3:18pm, October 28, 2009

Deez Nuts

cremdonado

Your post was good. I agreed with everything you wrote.
Especially when you called yourself a Douche

cremdonado=Douche

3:23pm, October 28, 2009

jmcdanl

.....and it just keeps getting worse..... Is there a bottom to this pit?

3:29pm, October 28, 2009

jmcdanl

oh...and forgot to add.... could we look more desperate and lost???

3:31pm, October 28, 2009

jongruden

Pinkstob- everything I have been saying about this team since the firing of Gruden has come true (everything), I take it that you have not seen this kid play in college, well, I will be accepting your apology in about 3 games or if your real stubborn which sounds like the case then three yrs either way it's coming see you then.

3:32pm, October 28, 2009

jongruden

all the kool-aid drinkers on this site like: Pinkstob, trapper, Jdouble, flyboyindallas are almost gone now
Trapper-RIP
Flyboyindallas-RIP
jdouble- has switched alliances with me and bucfan47 all he does is bitch on bad the team is now
Pinkstob- somehow still clueless on the direction of this team and makes excuses for Morris
who ever is left surrounding the punch bowl I urge you to join me, bucfan47 and pewterpirate99 and live in the real world

3:36pm, October 28, 2009

gg72049

Hopefully Morris or the idiot Olsen calls some screen passes, draws, quick slants or down and outs to help this kid with the blitzes that will be coming. Based on what the great offensive coaches have done so far, that is something that isn't even in their playbook.

As bad as our qb's have been it would have been nice to have some coaches who could have at least given them a fighting chance to be somewhat successful. What a sorry set of freaking coaches this team has running this team!!!!!!!

3:51pm, October 28, 2009

gg72049

Does anyone know where the defensive tackles Moore and Moore have gone to?? I can see why they haven't been playing with the exceptional play of Sims and Hovan! Hard to break in to that great lineup with the play of those two in the first 7 games! Come one Morris, start letting these young guys play since your regulars are not playing worth a damn!

4:01pm, October 28, 2009

Barack-007

Hopefully this can help overcome, all the problems with this team. Missed tackles,dropped balls, blown coverages.no running game, missed fieldgoals etc etc.. Fix all these problems and then start Freeman, give him a chance to succeed, like Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan. I Hope he does well
GO BUCS

4:08pm, October 28, 2009

pinkstob

Everything you've said has come true, eh? What about when you said after the Giants game that there was no talent on the defense and they would show no improvement for the rest of the season?

Aqib, T-Jack, Wilkerson and Ruud have proven to be talented players. The defense has improved from 31st to 27th overall. Still bad, but an improvement nonetheless in the presence of great passing attacks (Philly, New England) and running attacks (Carolina).

I don't pay you enough attention to point out how often you're wrong, but if you want to keep score let's see how accurate your score prediction above turns out.

Again, while some people are trying to put the focus on themselves this is about the Bucs having a new QB that could turn out to be pretty good. As always, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise.

4:38pm, October 28, 2009

jongruden

LOL- 31 to 27th huh ok ggod job
-

4:50pm, October 28, 2009

bucfan47

Well, I don't really have a prediction. I feel confident he'll play very badly, and I do feel very confident our team will remain winless.

What I'm wondering is if all of us will look back to week 4 when Leftwich was pulled and wonder had Morris not jumped the gun so quickly, stuck with Lefty for 12 weeks and allowed Freeman to play the final four games, would we have had a couple wins? Anyone want to argue NO? Because I think we would have won a couple.

That's the issue that leaves me scratching my head. It's cool I guess, but it's still amazing that Morris would rather give Freeman and Johnson (who should have never played a down) experience at the mercy of possibly losing his own job. If he gets fired for going 0-16, Johnson and Freeman should at least take a portion of their salary and give it to Morris.

He has literally provided Johnson the opportunity to play in games he would have otherwise never saw the field. And he's now allowing Freeman to play when he should still be learning and NOT playing.

Priceless.

5:01pm, October 28, 2009

Horse

October 28th, 5:13 PM, still waiting for the Owners to come forward and apologize to the Buc Fans for their inferior product.
Do not spend one penny if these owners get any part of it.
We don't have a vote, but we have a right to protest.

5:14pm, October 28, 2009

lprock22

LOL Pinkstob, hahah 31st to 27th yeah great improvement. HAHA, sorry I just spit up a little from laughing so hard. Umm, I dunno if that's moving up in the fish tank or just wiggling around a little with the other bottom feeders to suck on a new patch of algae. And I dunno if you're watching the same Ruud that I am but I see a guy who's getting OWNED in a big way at the point of attack, a guy making NO big plays, a guy who has no strength to hold up against the run and a guy who is missing tackles, some of which like the one he missed on Aiken against NE go for 40 yd TDs. Wilkerson is eh....that's the most you can say...eh. He doesn't suck but he's not a guy I would consider a major building block for the future...I mean if you want your 'best' DE to max out at like 6 sacks on the year then OK but his spot needs to be upgraded as well. Talib and Jackson are the lone bright spots on that 'defense'....come on the difference between 27th and 31st in defense is not that big of a jump, I haven't looked up the actual stats, you can do that, but I'm sure its like 15-20 yds. less per game...MAYBE.

5:27pm, October 28, 2009

pewterpirate99

jongruden- AMEN brother! I don't understand why people still make excuses for RADIO Morris. That's right I said it, RADIO! I say it like that due to what the Bucs said today.

For those that don't know the Bucs said don't want us fans/posters referring to Rah Rah as Radio, they don't like that. Well since the Bucs don't like that we all better stop. HAHAHAHAHA, I'll get right on that. Listen up Bucs especially Glazers, as long as RADIO is our coach we will continue to call him RADIO and if you don't like it.......TOO F@$KING BAD!!!!!!! How dare you try and tell us what to say and how to express ourselves!!! You were the ones that hired him and it's not our fault that they have a resemblance, in more ways than one.

As far as prediction for Freeman.... to quote Clubber Lang, " Pain! " I hope he proves me wrong, but I haven't been wrong about this season yet. I say Packers 38 Bucs 7, and I'm being generous. I still say 0-16, I don't see them beating anyone left on there schedule.

5:36pm, October 28, 2009

pewterpirate99

Iprock22, nicely put. I agree with your assessment of the players.

5:38pm, October 28, 2009

pinkstob

lprock22, what is your point exactly? Did you read everything that was said? I said there was an improvement and that was my only point because jongruden said there would be zero improvement. Case closed.

If you had read any of my recent posts you would've seen that I've pointed out many of the same things you just said about Ruud when bucfan47 and jongruden claimed Ruud was the best player on the defense. Ruud is a good player, just not great. He's just not a great fit for this style of defense.

The players on defense I named have talent. The defense has improved. I even said right after that they were still a bad defense. Again, did you even read any of this?

5:47pm, October 28, 2009

jongruden

Pinkstob- you said "there was improvement" 31 to 27th -hilarious, thats like saying the rams have improved from 32nd to 29th whatever- the reason we might imrove a little statiscally is because we are already getting blown out of the game and the other team is letting off of the gas, NE could have scored 60 pts if they actually gave a damn-I needed that laugh thankyou

5:53pm, October 28, 2009

cremdonado

deez nuts- shame on you !!-this is a forum for football,not name calling !! For shame !!! I hope you feel good about what you have done..

I guess I opened myself up to it...At least you didnt call me something offensive like " J double" !!

5:57pm, October 28, 2009

cremdonado

Is that a punch bowl filled with kool aid ?-My bad, all this time I've been pissin in it thinking it was a urinal !!!

6:01pm, October 28, 2009

tillmanboys

Good luck josh. Go Bucs

6:30pm, October 28, 2009

lprock22

Pinkstob, yes I did read everything you wrote and that is why I responded to everything you wrote. I'm just pointing out that improving from 31st to 27th isn't really improvement at all, the difference between 27th and 31st is maybe one intermediate pass play given up. The thing I was getting on about that was the fact you used it to support an arguement against mr. gruden and I found it to be weak, that is all. There is so little difference between defenses (again haven't seen the actual stats) ranked 32nd to 25th that its of little or no consequence menaing we may be ranked 27th but we're not discernably better than even the 32nd ranked defense......we've just gotten one stop or so more than they have, or we had one more opposing receiver drop a pass for 15 yds or so. Big deal...when we jump upfrom 31st to 20th then let's talk cause that's improvement.

And you ALSO refered to Ruud as a talented player...talented how so, that he's in the NFL...ok I'll give you that. But he hasn't done anything else for me lately to make me agree that hes 'talented' in a noteworthy sense. I mean Josh Johnson is talented enough to be in the NFL but he's not talented enough to not be a lower tier NFL QB and therefore not talented in any consequential fashion...same with Ruud. He's talented enough to be in there but not talented enough to raise the play of this defense....he's AT BEST a system LB or (which I think is the more likely of the two) a complimentary player meaning he's only 'good' if he has excellent (and I mean TRULY TALENTED) LBs flanking him on both sides to cover up his mistakes and above avg. DL to keep blockers off him. If he has to step up to the point he's going to lose that battle most times. He's NOT Talib talented or Jackson talented, those guys make game changing plays, they just dont have a team around them to take advantage of them when they happen. I'd say at best Ruud is servicable, which basically means he'll do until we find someone better....I think Wilkerson is pretty much the same way but he's better at taking advantage of his opportunities.

6:38pm, October 28, 2009

jongruden

I thought Ruud was one of the better LB's in the NFL coming into the season, but I guess playing next to Derrick Brooks will do that for you just like it helped Shelton Quarles, he was a big stat player as well but if Quarles had played with Rams you never would have heard of him. Ruud can't stand out on his own he's more of a complimenatary player.

7:03pm, October 28, 2009

pinkstob

Sigh, you guys are giving me a headache. lprock22 we're making the exact same observation but you've made an argument out of it somehow. Better is always better. An improvement is always an improvement. Always. You say it's not much of an improvement. It's not. But it is an improvement nonetheless. jongruden said there would be no improvement. There has been. It doesn't matter that you don't like the amount of improvement you've seen. I don't like it either, but it's still there.

Ruud has made very few splash plays this year. But he was a better overall player in the Cover 2 last year because he's better fit for that system. That's why he hasn't done anything for you lately, as you put it. He's been in Bates' system lately. All of your observations of him in this system I agree with. I don't even know how I ended up arguing with you.

7:13pm, October 28, 2009

hannconn

pinkstob, I agree with you, although it is not to call home to mamma about it is an improvement.

Also, I love hearing all these NFL Coaches, or maybe dipshits (Jon Gruden and his Pewter Report Possie ), saying how bad Freeman will be before they even see him start a game. It'ss funny because if you look at the NFL, typically it takes a team a couple of years to rebuild. Plus think of guys like Jamarcus Russell, he was going to be awesome along with the running back out there, whats his name again. Plus also don't forget a couple of guys they started their careers about 15 years ago withus, Derrick Brooks and Warrick Dunn, neither of them was supposedto beable to play in this league and look at the careers they had.

7:31pm, October 28, 2009

lprock22

Pinkstob....you're right. I'm sorry, these Bucs just have me in a very dark place. I mean even though my LA Kings are playing great hockey right now and my Lakers are well...the Lakers (champions)...my UCLA Bruins are losing which is bad enough but my Bucs, my Bucs which I love above all the others are just down right depressing the shit out of me. I need a hug...can you....can you be my hug Pinkstob? I'm sorry for jumping down your throat....you didn't deserve it.

7:58pm, October 28, 2009

roster

Most of you are a bunch of dumbasses. I bet you all were saying how Troy Aikman and Peyton Manning after their first year's were busts. But then you were all down on your knees waiting to lick the sweat off their balls! You guys need to get a life other than sitting around in your empty houses complaining about the Bucs because you know nothing about the team, the players or the game. And you need to remember that owning a football team is a business it doesn't exist for you. Owners want to make as much money as they can when they win and contintue to take your money when they lose. They're only going to pay a player when it's neccesary not because you people have mancrushes on veteran players like Derrick Brooks who are way past their prime and Barret Ruud who has proved nothing about what type of player he will be.

7:58pm, October 28, 2009

Warthog

You Bucs fans hoping the team drafts another QB early next year are living in a dream world.

Even if Freeman sucks this year they will stick with him for at least another season before deciding whether he's worth keeping.

Which is the right move - some QBs take a while to develop and you have to accept some serious growing pains in the first place.

And for those who are still upset that such a developmental prospect was drafted in the first round, build a bridge and get the heck over it. It happened and he'll be the starter for a while now, regardless of the quality of his play.

Josh, i'm rooting for ya.

7:59pm, October 28, 2009

dcrum35

Good luck Freeman. Here's to hoping for a long and succesful career. Just ignoe the morons like johngruden posting on here who hate you. It must be some personal inefficiency on their part. Personally I don't understand how a fan of a team can root for their demise just to proven right, but that is what he is doing.
Apparantley he isn't a fan of the team and his schtick is getting real old. He is probably a pathetic loser living in his mom's basement. Just ignore him and focus on football.

8:00pm, October 28, 2009

ledphones

ok anyone who says barrett ruud sucks... heres a little fact... he has the fourth most tackles in the NFL with 64... he proally won't be number four after the bye week but right now he is

9:02pm, October 28, 2009

tummler1

hardly breaking news, werent we ALL saying freeman would be in after the bye BEFORE the season even started????

9:02pm, October 28, 2009

pewterpirate99

I'm curious, when this team goes 0-16,1-15 and next year they have a similar record ( assuming Radio , Dummynik , and Dickey are still here ), are all of you that are so supportive going to still be singing the same tune? And I'm not saying you can't be supportive because WE can all be as supportive as we want, but how much losing and mediocrity are you willing to stand before you turn on this regime? When I say this regime, it starts and is mainly the Glazers I'm talking about. Look we all know that Rah Rah is a sacrificial lamb, the Glazers set him up to fail. They know that they can't win , not with the crap that is on the field. For god's sake the man had to call and get permission to change the line up!!!! I've never seen an NFL head coach have to get an ok from some jackass in a suit that's never played the game to put in another player. I was EMBARRASSED as a fan and for ole Radio as well. That just looked sooooo bad, and everybody saw it. I don't hate Rah Rah he seems like a very nice guy, I just hate that he's the one that was chosen to be the head coach. He has no exp. and I don't want the head coach of my football team learning on the job. He may turn out to be Vince Lambardi , John Madden and Tom Landry all rolled into one. I DON"T CARE! I don't care what he could turn into. I care about the now, and now this team needs an EXPERIENCED head coach that knows how to evaluate talent and whats that little thing called.........oh yeah COACH!
The front office is clueless when it comes to evaluate talent and if that front office doesn't change in the off season, next year will be very similar to this one.

9:32pm, October 28, 2009

jongruden

it's great that alot of you want this kid Freeman to be good, in fact I hope i am dead wrong and that he is a super star, but PR said alot of the same things I have been saying that ths kid isn't ready for the NFL right now and would have been better served by staying in college one more yr, but he got good financial advice and came out in one of the weakest qb class drafts in awhile and was chose in the first round instead of being a 3rd to 4th rounder this year. I have seen this kid play enough to see his big eyes under center and that he lacks the competitive fire that a guy like Sanchez has to be good, so here's to wishful thinking and can someone pour me a cup of home town kool-aid before Pinkstob drinks it all?

10:11pm, October 28, 2009

freeman27

47 -- The bulk of your argument assumes that Raheem/Dom are disconnected from ownership, and have not not communicated with them about this Freeman promotion.

Of course, an entirely plausible scenario is one where the Glazers have OK'd this move, and given the two assurances regarding job security. Maybe, maybe not. The point is that your argument is based on the assumption that such communication has definitely not taken place. These are young guys, in positions for the first time. It seems to me a definite possibility that ownership has given some input here.

If ownership did approve this move, then it seems that you are on board with Freeman promotion, given his success is tied to the long term success of the Bucs, which is my only concern, and which you said you agree with.

Good.

10:38pm, October 28, 2009

twan01

the blueprint for this season was layed out from OTA's...gonna play these young guys and give them a chance to earn a spot for the future, see who needs to be replaced (next season) and where the focus for the draft will be. this year was never about this year. the team is awful and i do agree that we probably would have two wins right now if Leftwich had remained the QB.
Morris and Dominik had this plan all along and it's been written all season that Freeman would start after the bye week. this is no surprise, would be more of a surprise if he wasn't named starter.
coming into this season i saw the offense as a strong point and the defense as a work in progress, but after 7 games, the entire team, from coaches down to the water boys is a work in progress. we're rebuilding and this season is a wash, period.
but we aren't 0-7 because of Freeman, so i wish him luck and success, because he's in there until he gets hurt. what's funny is the team has been coached badly at times and the "veteran" players that we do have, have played badly at most other times. from the O-Line to the D-Backs. some of this blame goes not only to Morris, Olsen, Bates and Dominik, but also the players that have been on the roster for a couple, three, four years. there's missed blocking assignments, which for this line is unacceptable, especially with a young QB back there, there's been numerous dropped balls, wrong routes, untimely penalties (dating back to last season), many, many missed tackles (and that dates back to last season), blown coverages, no pressure from the front four (also dating back to last season), and a partridge in a pear freakin tree.

so i'm not only blaming this train wreck on the coaches, i'm laying the blame where most of you have failed to put it...on these players. agree or not, but 85% of the starters from last years squad is out there stinkin it up. no one has consistently stepped up their game, yeah theres been plays made here and there, but i don't care what the coaches call, one missed block can ruin the best play call, one guy not where he is supposed to be, missing a tackle, will keep a young D on the field to get exposed. not saying that Morris and Dominik haven't made their mistakes, because they have and will and we knew that when they were hired, but they don't look any worse than the longest tenured coach in Tennessee.

Here's to a new era, hope it's better than Dilfer's reign as a Buc first round QB was, but let's face it, we've only ever had one franchise QB that we could say was a strong point of our team and that was Doug Williams (and he was let go). there has been no other QB in Bucs history that went out there and just dominated. so Freeman can do no worse. and those two guys that were selected ahead of him aren't exactly out there being this years Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco either. He's gonna make plays and blow plays, that's the life of a rookie. especially one playing on this years squad. we'll be 0-16 when it's said and done, but this is all for next year and beyond. that was written early on and i didn't want to believe it, but the writing is on the wall.

Good Luck Bucs!!! Freeman is going to need it!

1:16am, October 29, 2009

scubog

You people are unbelievable. You think predicting that a rookie QB will struggle for a while is some grand revelation? In the words of Johnie Carson, "Gee, I did not know that." We all expect him to have to learn on the run, take a lot of sacks, throw a lot of interceptions and look confused at times and well, play like Jake Delhome. Any of you see Manning or Aikman their first years on bad teams?

What's amazing to me is that it's clear that some of you, so called fans, would prefer Freeman to fail just so you can profess to be right. Are your lives that pathetic? Shouldn't we all want Freeman and every other player to succeed? I was never too keen on the Dexter Jackson pick but I didn't want him to be a bust.

As a fan who has endured every failed attempt to get a great QB, I certainly don't hope this one does so we can try again next season.

For me this is a 16 game 2010 preseason. I don't think inserting Leftwich so we can win a game or two makes any sense either. Heck, we'd be 0-7 with any of you posters at QB. I don't want the team to go winless because of the stigma that goes along with it, but after that I want the highest draft pick possible.

6:20am, October 29, 2009

bucfan47

scubog- I Freeman passes for 30 TD's in his first season, I'll take the interceptions that come along with it. The difference between Manning and Freeman is that Manning threw TD passes, and this guy is not capable of throwing that many in one season. He'll not throw half that number if I had to guess.

That's the difference. You can't look at just interceptions. If anyone knows anything about football, you could tell even as a rookie in the NFL that Peyton Manning was going to be special. The interceptions always come as part of adjusting to the speed of the game. As time goes on, the interceptions numbers come down. He was throwing from day 1 and has always put up big numbers in the passing game.

That's a terrible argument if you really want to know.

8:16am, October 29, 2009

bucfan47

So let me get this straight, how many of you above anything else that happens this season DON'T WANT TO GO 0-16?

Ok, if you answer YES, I don't want to go 0-16, why are you pulling for Freeman to play instead of Leftwich again? Priceless.

By playing Freeman, Morris and Olson are in agreement that getting him experience is more important than winning a couple games and keeping their jobs.

I mean, honestly, no wonder fans are calling him Radio. That's a serious case of being a tard.

8:19am, October 29, 2009

Sherm48

The kid's big, not fat. Yeah, he's soft, but so was Dan Marino throughout his career. Marino is also big. It served him well. You can't teach that size. A QB doesn't have to be Hulk Hogan (God forbid). The look in Freeman's eyes is different now than it was in pre-season. He's ready to give it his shot. He may not be ready to get it done, but he's ready to give it a shot. In pre-season, you could see that he didn't feel that at that point.

This is a little like parenting. You help the kid up on his bike, point him in the right direction, and stand by ready to help out, which you do less and less over time. You watch the kid make mistakes, hopefully only small ones, and gradually he makes fewer and fewer of them. Then one day you see him emerge as a confident grownup (who will still make mistakes, by the way).

Go out there and give it your shot, No. 5. Keep taking steps in the right direction. It won't come all at once. And you're gonna hear it along the way from the naysayers and morons (you probably don't know who you are, but the rest of us do). And don't worry about "winning one." Just make play after play. The winning will take care of itself. That's how winners win. Best of luck, 5. Go Bucs!

8:23am, October 29, 2009

Vision2499

I used to read the comments on here because I felt like they provided some extra info and insight into the community and organization that I otherwise would not be able to experience. Currently, the article itself hardly fills 1/6 of the screen, the remaining length being comments. Of these comments, the majority are nothing but users insulting each other, with very little actual football discussion going on. Sure - names are mentioned, previous examples are brought up, but for the most part it's degraded to just arguing to argue.

For what is ideally a Buccaneers fan site, I see very few people even bothering to type 'Go Bucs'. Even what that happens, half the time it's a disclaimer, i.e. "I really hope they succeed.... however..." and then it goes on into more doom and gloom fortune telling crap. Yea, we'll have a pretty bad record, I get it. We all get it. You don't need a master's degree to tell us that an 0-7 team has issues, really no pedestal necessary to stand on there.

On top of that, the people that ATTEMPT to leave supporting comments past the usual 'Go Bucs' or other generic statement are attacked and belittled. Again, it's a bad team, a terrible team, quite obviously one of the worst in the NFL right now. But this is a Buccaneer fan site, and by definition a fan likes and supports his/her team. If doing that is cause for being called an idiot, inaccurate, or one of many other names, I'm not sure why people don't pick one of many other forums made for that purpose. Worst of all, people are making jokes about alliances and taking sides in arguments over every detail possible concerning this team. Seems that with a bad record comes the bad attitudes.

9:42am, October 29, 2009

bucfan47

Vision2499 - I'm with you, it's hard to remain positive when it's dipped to the level it's currently on. Makes it hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully there is a light at the end and it comes sooner rather than later.

I think the Bucs need to really attempt to make a legit run at Suh. Continuing on it's efforts to improve the D-line which started with Haynesworth. Maybe the one positive out of missing on him is that this kid Suh turns out to be really special. He's certainly got the ability physically it appears. Most everything hinges on QB play, so hopefully this playing time can help Freeman enough that life starting next season will be better to the point we can win those 5-6 games I projected this season. If we can win 4-6 next year, I think that's a step in the right direction.

The team needs to spend alot of time preparing for next years draft, as they must improve that area more-so than anything else they do. The team is in dire-need of talent, and right now it seems as if that's the major area lacking. Only a few athletes that have the ability to rise above.

10:02am, October 29, 2009

freeman27

47 - So you agree? If Raheem has gotten the OK from the Glazers, you are in the freeman27 camp?

10:16am, October 29, 2009

theGarv

The fact is that Josh Freeman is the future here, in the eyes of the Buccaneers that matter.
He has ALL the tools and just needs reps and experience.
Raheem will be the HC next year and Freeman will be the QB. He is going to struggle at first. Stupid "fans" will jump all over him of course, calling for God know's who.
Grow up. Root for this kid and watch him grow. He needs to get better. But with our crappy defense, do not cry when the wins don't come. This is an important step for the future of this team and namby pamby loud mouthed idiots that know about as much about football as I do chemistry need to support this team. It is what it is and has been since the Royal's fired Jon and Bruce.

Good luck Josh! I, and most loyal fans, are with you all the way.
Free pass this season IMO.

10:38am, October 29, 2009

bucfan47

freeman27 - It is what it is. Morris IMO jumped the gun by benching Leftwich too soon. It's cost our team a chance to win any games this season, or at least have the shot. I would not be playing Freeman this soon if it were me, but given the state of the team, I guess it's not the end of the world.

I just don't see how Morris validates playing him when his ball club is still winless. How's he feel that Freeman gives him the best chance at winning a game is beyond me, but it's still his ship to sail at this point. We'll see.

10:59am, October 29, 2009

tjhuth

Mr. Freeman - CONGRATULATIONS on your promotion. My onyl recommendation is that you BUST your butt both on and off the field to learn and get better - and fast. I have heard rumors that your work ethic is poor. I hope they are false. We shall see. Best of luck.

pinkstob, scubog and twan01 -
Good comments - way to stay positive.

bf47 - when did you and Leftwitch tie the knot! Congrats.

cremdonado - when did you and bf47 tie the knot! Congrats.

JohnGruden - when did you ... oh never mind.

Geeezzz guys. None of you KNOW what Freeman will be like as a starter. At least have the courtesy to wish the kid well.

We all know that he will make mistakes and all, but let's hope with each game he grows as a qb.

GO BUCS! GO FREEMAN! Let's get behind this kid.

12:23pm, October 29, 2009

tjhuth

One more comment. When should the BUCS start Freeman? Next year when they are (hopefully) 3-1? or 2-2?

I'd rather start him now - when we have absolutely nothing to lose while he is learning.

12:27pm, October 29, 2009

bucfan47

First of all, the Bucs should have stuck with Leftwich for at least 10 weeks. My recommendation would have been 12 weeks. We all knew the first seven weeks was about as brutal an opening as you can have. I told everyone beginning of the year it's very likely we're either winless or have 1-2 wins by the break...Nobody believed me and called me crazy.

Morris panicked and pulled him after three weeks, much too early if you ask me, and he's gotten beaten up pretty heavily for it on the National airwaves. Which is fine, first time coach, everyone expects them to fail. What I would have liked to have seen is for Morris to have the guts to stick with him. I live in Knoxville, and you wouldn't believe it if I told you that for the first four weeks of the season, Lane Kiffin was under enormous pressures to bench the starting QB and put in the backup. You know, the younger guy with more upside. Well, he stuck to his guns and now, it's funny that everyone down here is pulling for Crompton to succeed, and it's hilarious that most people who were hating him two weeks ago, now are the same ones pulling for him after his impressive performances against Georgia and Alabama.

Leftwich was the Bucs best bet at winning a few games this season. It should have been the plan and I believe it FULLY was at the start of the season, but something changed mid-cycle that made Morris panic, made him rethink his strategy and start playing the younger players and that decision has totally backfired.

I mean, we've been playing Johnson for the last few weeks and all his experience is never going to matter b/c we all knew Freeman was the QB that eventually this season was going to get the nod. Why Morris elected to play a guy with no experience over the guy that gave you the best chance at winning one game is totally beyond me. I'll never understand it.

I just hope that Morris isn't replaced after this season b/c of it. If the money situation is that bad, Morris may feel very confident in playing these youngsters and cotinuing to lose b/c he knows ownership is so money strapped they aren't going to fire him regardless of the win/loss record in year 1.

And that maybe true by the way. But even if it's true, Morris should take winning more seriously over playing all these young guys just for the sake of avoiding the embarassment us fans will have to endure if the team goes 0-16. It's actually pretty difficult to manage to remain winless in the NFL, and Tampa is proving that theory wrong each and every week.

They are proving it's not that hard to lose every game, if you're committed to playing young players at key positions at the expense of even being competitive.

Just go down the line and compare Freeman to the other starters he's about to face...Take a look

Freeman < Rogers = Loss
Freeman < Henne = Loss
Freeman < Brees = Blowout loss
Freeman < Ryan = Loss
Freeman < Sanchez = Loss
Freeman < Hasselback = Loss

I mean, they have no shot at winning a game with him under center, and I just don't understand the strategy. Folks, coaches do things on purpose. Say what you will, but I fully believe these are very smart people.

Think what you want, but I fully think Jeff Fisher wore the Manning jersey on purpose to that fundraising event. He's worn out his welcome and my bet is he realizes the CBA is on it's way to not being signed, and guess what? Tennessee is not the place you want to be if there is no salary cap in the NFL. You want to be in a large market, and don't think for a minute that Jeff Fisher or any of these other coaches don't realize it.

My point of bringing him up is that Morris absolutely MUST, MUST know that he can't win a game with Freeman, just like he had to know with a minimum 95% confidence he wasn't going to win one with Johnson either.

But the guy doesn't care. The question is WHY? HOW? How can he NOT care? The only explanation I got is that he feels very confident he's not getting canned after this season. That's got to be the only answer. Either that or he simply don't care. Because no coach in the NFL plays games just for experience. They play to win games, and our coach right now is not doing that to me.

2:10pm, October 29, 2009

skanji65

jongruden - take your man crush on our former coach elsewhere. Your act is really getting old. Sick of hearing how Jon Gruden would have done this or would have gotten massacred for doing this bs. He's gone. Its week 8. We have what we have.

bucsfan47 - not sure why you are so infatuated with getting a couple of wins this year. I dont think there is any difference in going 2-14 or 0-16, losing is losing. We still are an inferior team with inferior talent and coaches. The only thing we can get out of this season is player development. Who shows promise should stay, those that dont should be shown the door. That simple. Cant do that with Lefty bumbling around for 12 weeks trying to get us a couple of wins. Less development for Freeman. Does anyone remeber Miami going 1-15 before putting together a great year last season and fielding a competitive team this year?

Good luck Freeman. Hopefully you can utilize your physical tools to be a decent, young QB for us. We havent had one in quite some time. And I better not catch you partying at Kennedy the night before an away game flight again.

4:05pm, October 29, 2009

bucdiesel

Bucfan I think we could have won against the skins with slugwhich. I think the receivers were more used to his passing, but still should have wone with JJ if Hands of Stone didn't drop that td pass.

If they want to give Freeman any chance to succeed at Greenbay they need to pound him with blitz situations the next two weeks. Force him to make fast decisions. Our offense is struggling partly because the defensive front four sucks so bad so there's no real competition. The bad thing for him is that after reading about Morris' stupendous bye week criteria he won't be getting any extra work in. Morris says this was decided upon along time ago and they're not deviating. Wow!!!some said Gruden was stubborn, looks like Morris is worse. Atleast Gruden knew how to make adjustments. I feel bad for you Josh. I missed rhe Patriots game but plan to catch your first start. I gave JJ a chance so I will give you more. The young man got a little better each year so I hope he gets better each game.

6:01pm, October 29, 2009

scubog

Once again BF47, in you attempts to make an argument where there is none you fail to comprehend my point and read words that aren't there.

I didn't compare Manning to Freeman because we have nothing from Freeman to compare. He only took a few snaps in "garbage time" of a meaningless 4th quarter. What I was saying is that we shouldn't expect much from any rookie QB because they all, even the great ones, struggle. I never even used the words interception TD's in my post.

I should have known it would ruffle you if I made a comment about Leftwich who was your choice, and mine I might add, as the starter at the beginning of the season. But now that the season is half over having Leftwich in there isn't going to mean anything different than when he was in there even if we won three games instead of one. I think your prediction with Leftwich was a dismal three wasn't it?

Funny comment you made earlier that it was hard to remain positive. You haven't been positive about anything since the Glazers fired Gruden.

5:57am, October 30, 2009

bucfan47

skanji65 - Again, difference of opinion. If they win a game or two in my mind, that's enough to make me think it's not that bad. If they lose all 16 games, I will be onboard with Morris being fired. Losing all 16 games in any season is absolutely unacceptable, and it should be for you as well. Two games. That's the difference between being 2-14 and 0-16, but those two wins CAN and SHOULD make all the difference in the world as to whether Morris stays or goes.

No excuses if he fails to lead this team to a single victory, with or without veteran players.

And scu, I'm not for playing Freeman now. No chance at winning a ball game and I'm not for experience. Let these guys get some experience in practice and let Freeman play the last four games of the season. Just because Morris f*cked up the first half of the season by going with Johnson, doesn't mean he should get a free pass and the old "Oh Well, let's just lose em all" mentality by playing everyone on the roster.

I mean, who in their honest to god right minds thought Josh Johnson deserved to play a game this season? Seriously, given the facts we know. He wasn't practicing with the first team or the second team I might add. Yet they "Morris" made the statement that Johnson was the kind of player that didn't need a whole lot of reps. He was ready. REALLY?

I don't care about getting Freeman experience. I care about getting Freeman experience when he's ready. The coach's obviously think he is, but what reason do I have to believe they are right here? Morris doesn't know an NFL roster is comprised of 53 players. Why should I believe anything he says? Why should I believe he's smart enough to realize what he's doing? He didn't even know the 3rd quarter has cost us any chance at winning a game this season. I mean, the guys a joke.

I don't know whether to call the guy Radio or the Joker. I really like both.

10:10am, October 30, 2009

Pewterdude

"And with the firt pick of NFL's 2010 draft...The Tampa Bay Bucs are on the clock...."

And to think many on this board who thought that a few of us who picked the Bucs to win only 4 games were being "negative".........????

It was inevitable that Freeman would be starter this season as the easily predictable losses would pile up considering the schedule, and this is the ushering in of a new era in Tampa at the QB position.

Freeman must be played to begin his developmental process at reading defenses, the speed of the pro game, the timing of his throws, and properly making his progression of his checkdowns as he learns the complexity of the pro game and it will be ugly at times IMO but his raw athleticism just may give this team a win. This will continue to be ugly but the future is now and hopefully the Glazers sell the team or use the reported $30 million in the projected uncapped season next year in 2010.

If the team is not saving it's cap money for the uncapped 2010 season and continues it's cost cutting and saving ways under the veil of building through the draft and the youth movement, then I will no longer support such a cheap regime and find it impossible to even watch this undermanned and ridiculously assembled group.

I can't even TiVo the Bucs because I have no interest in even watching them but it will be interesting to watch the Freeman era begin with the continued youth movement and watching the Caddy grow and stay healthy.

THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED UNDER THE GRUDEN WATCH WITH ALLEN AS GM.....IT WAS JUST PLAIN WRONG AND IT'S JUST A SHAME..

Starting Freeman is the only thing that makes sense at this stage and I hope the very best for him and hope the Glazers spend aggressively in the upcoming season along with the several very high draft picks in each round that they should be in a position to select.

Let the new era begin and let's usher it in with patience, optimisim, and hope that mgt. will cough up the dough to surround the youngsters with the talent to TRULY rebuild successfully without completely losing it's fanbase.

1:33am, November 1, 2009

Pewterdude

Starting Freeman is crucial for film study during the offseason for his QB coach and the staff to correct his fundamental flaws and mechanics as well as his decision making processes and improve on his strengths. It's absolutely necessary for Freeman NOT to become another JaMarcus FREAKING Russell !!!!

1:41am, November 1, 2009

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