NFL Referee Corrente Explains Controversial Instant Replay Call |
(On why the play which was ultimately ruled an interception by Jason Taylor was initially ruled an incomplete pass) – “One of the officials on the field felt the ball had touched the ground after it left the possession of the receiver.”
(On why was the play not ruled a completion upon review) – “Because the player in question, the player who was possessing the ball in the air, as he started to come down, was hit. As he is coming down, he is now going to the ground to complete a catch and by rule, if he’s going to the ground to complete a catch, he has to maintain possession of the ball completely through the entire process of hitting the ground and thereafter showing control. As he went to the ground, basically right when he went to the ground, the ball popped out, and went right into the arms of the Miami player. The ball had never touched the ground.”
(On if the play was ever whistled dead) – “The play was never whistled dead, not until the player [Taylor] got into the end zone.”
(On why Taylor was unable to advance the ball) – “Because by rule, in the replay rules we can give the ball to the team, but we can’t allow the advance thereafter.”
(On if they are unable to allow an advance even if the ball is not whistled dead) – “Unfortunately, that’s just the replay rule because it was ruled as an incomplete pass.”
(On when the play was ruled an incomplete pass) – “It wasn’t ruled incomplete until there was a discussion in the end zone well after the touchdown was ‘scored.’ And so at that point, the officials got together and one said ‘I felt the ball hit the ground,’ and of course any doubt, it’s incomplete.”
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davdar
7:45pm, November 15, 2009
drunkinybor
5:43pm, November 15, 2009
sunrisejeff
5:44pm, November 15, 2009
pinkstob
How many times do we have to see this call go against the Bucs? I still say E. Sheppard caught that ball in the end zone in the playoffs in 2005. How long does a receiver have to hold onto that damn ball until it's considered a catch? The amount of time should be clearly presented in the NFL rule book so the referee can look at the play and a timer during the review to rule it fairly.
5:48pm, November 15, 2009
brooks55hof
Thanks Clayton "Hands of Stone". Got your money and you don't care anymore. PROTECT THE BALL. But #80 is a great blocker. Just more evidence that Gruden/Allen can't draft worth spit and us season ticket holders are paying top dollar to watch slop.
This was a competitive game and fun to watch. However, the zebras determined the outcome. Looks like we found a FG kicker and a money QB. Freeman to Winslow, we like that.....
5:55pm, November 15, 2009
christopher
6:05pm, November 15, 2009
Pewterpain
6:14pm, November 15, 2009
brooks55hof
6:26pm, November 15, 2009
drt1066
6:30pm, November 15, 2009
bucfan47
7:01pm, November 15, 2009
awg2109
But we still had the lead and lost it need to get a new Defensive Coach. Cause Bates gots to go he is terrible.
7:08pm, November 15, 2009
sebringt40
I know, I know one play shouldn't make the difference in a game...yada yada yada.
7:30pm, November 15, 2009
JFS414
7:34pm, November 15, 2009
cmoore2
7:42pm, November 15, 2009
Che
8:08pm, November 15, 2009
Chad
8:13pm, November 15, 2009
JDouble
8:53pm, November 15, 2009
tjbucman
10:18pm, November 15, 2009
tjbucman
10:22pm, November 15, 2009
bucfan47
It's the rule, and YES, they got it right by the book, which is what you want any ref to do in a game. Although it sucks the Bucs had to be on the other end.
11:10pm, November 15, 2009
tummler1
11:14pm, November 15, 2009
sensiblefan84
This call was wrong by rule and by common sense.
Here's what Corrente said: "If he’s going to the ground to complete a catch, he has to maintain possession of the ball completely through the entire process of hitting the ground and thereafter showing control."
The precedent set in the Raiders game was clear: Lou Murphy had two feet and a butt hit but his elbow and the ball hit the ground at the same time on the way down. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d812a3858/NFL-GameDay-Chargers-vs-Raiders-highlights (@ the 1:36 mark) It doesn't make common sense but the refs can point to the fact that the possession wasn't "clean".
First, Clayton catches it plants his right foot, gets hit in the left leg his butt hits, then left hand, left elbow, left shoulder hit all while the ball is tucked. He starts to roll over onto his left shoulder/back and left knee...and right before his right knee and hand hit the ball pops out. He already hit the ground with all those parts of his body, he's on the way up from the ground and that's not good enough? At no point was there any doubt that the ball was in Clayton's possession and the on-field ref said "the receiver was in possession of the ball" on this video http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009111501/2009/REG10/buccaneers@dolphins#tab:watch...so I ask when does the process end?
The possession is never in doubt until Clayton is on the way up off the ground. There was no gray area on this one. This was an EASY call. Corente just expanded the rule to protect his guys and we got jobbed because of it. It robbed us 7 points and a ton of momentum going into half.
1:59am, November 16, 2009
FilmBuc
Just saw on NFL network where 2 analysts think thought this was a horrible call and an incorrect assessment by the ref.
As they showed on their replay, the ball did not pop out - it was stripped out AFTER Clayton had control, was down, and had been touched by a defender. A player cannot be stripped of the ball after he is down by contact.
They stated that the referee was focusing on the wrong aspect of the play - whether it was incomplete or an interception - when he should have been focusing on whether it was a catch and was the receiver down.
They were unanimous in calling this a horrible call. The ref is covering hi tracks with rulebook jargon rather than admitting he focused on the wrong aspect of the play.
3:37am, November 16, 2009
FilmBuc
The commentators and the research department pointed out there are 3 other rules that contradict that rule, including a player cannot lose possession once ruled down by contact. the play can be called incomplete - but a turnover cannot be caused once the player is down.
They couldn't call it incomplete because the ball never hit the ground - what the ref failed to realize is that he also could not rule the play a turnover because the player was down by contact. If the ball had hit the ground - the correct call would have been an incompletion.
Since it did not - that rule does not apply - meaning the ref should have resorted to the ruling that the player had possession when down by contact. Period.
3:52am, November 16, 2009
buccanoles
9:11am, November 16, 2009
TamBay BucFan
9:18am, November 16, 2009
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